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timwest
21 Eki 2014 19:04

VIX Index Retracements After Spikes & How To Find Support 

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CBOE Volatility Index - VIX - Daily versus SPY (S&P500 SPDR)

Sharp DROPS IN VIX have always been RE-TESTED

1. Look for sharp drop in VIX after a spike (Note: This is usually accompanied by a rally in stocks)
2. As soon as there is a 75% retracement of VIX, mark the level of stock prices.
3. The market will revisit this level once the short-covering euphoria is over.
4. See all examples. The last one completely blew up.

So, It looks like this is a very reliable read on VIX and what it means for the future of the S&P500.

Tim 3:03PM October 21, 2014

NOTE: THIS DATA IS ONLY THROUGH YESTERDAY'S CLOSE - FOCUS ON THE OLD SIGNALS
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timwest
I hope this can give you an extra "HIDDEN LEVEL" in the market to find "KEY SUPPORT" where others fail to see it.
KRSCBOE
Tim, can I call u this afternoon?
KRSCBOE
Tim, I'm not sure I understand. Is this chart saying that the lows will be tested?
timwest
The last time it was fully retraced. In a bull market, it seems that the 75% retracement level gets retested after the upside momentum wears off. It becomes a natural "support level" on pullbacks. It means that you don't have to chase the market any further up once the VIX comes back 75% from the spike. It's not perfect, but it's a decent indicator or where support is in the market.
KRSCBOE
thx!
Will_Wong
Not sure I understood you. Last Thursday on 10/16/2014, the VIX topped out at about 30. Over the next three sessions, it proceeded to drop sharply (accompanied by a sharp rise in stock prices). Presumably it bottomed on 10/21/2014 and today it started going up again (accompanied by a drop of the stock market as well). if VIX continue to retrace to 75% of the drop (from 10/16 to 10/21), the stock market will also drop accordingly. We are to note the stock price when the VIX retraced 75% of the drop. You said that in the future when the upside momentum wears off the stock market will revisit this value again and this becomes a support. In putting my thoughts to words, I think I am starting to understand your logic. Does this capture the essence of what you were trying to say? Thanks!
timwest
Yes, the level of buying that drives the market up and correspondingly drops VIX back down 75% of the run-up is a strong level of support.
Will_Wong
You mentioned in another post that the 75% retracement of the VIX will correspond to a 1940 for the SPX (actually 194 for the SPY). Is that correct?
IvanLabrie
This is great...really interesting correlation.
timwest
I added some more boxes and arrows ----
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